Fatphobia at The Standard

Zetetic/Zetitic is a new addition to the team at The Standard.

Z also has a tiny bit of a problem with fat people.

First, there was this comment:

Guess I shouldn’t have wasted my vote on RAM but when I saw a really fat RAM dude wearing a ‘GST off food’ shirt I was like ‘awesome, those guys are getting my vote’

Elaborated upon thus:

Seriously, edoze. you didn’t see how funny it was.

The total lack of self-awareness or irony in a guy who clearly has no trouble getting more than enough food calling for the price of food to be reduced.

And called on by me:

So we’ve got “making assumptions about people’s lifestyle based on their size” combined with “basic misunderstanding about the fact that a key reason for campaigning to remove GST from foods is to lower the cost of fresh and more nutritious foods” resulting in a subpar fat joke. Not funny, not clever, not cool.

I think my point was fairly clear. And with that, one would think, was the end of it – not that I’m claiming Instant Ideological Victory or anything, just the assumption that, like so many other random derailments on so many blogs, it was over and done with and we’d each go off on our separate ways.

Until Zetetic/Zetitic, of Z’s own accord, brings it all up again, in a comment ostensibly about racism:

Libertyscott is right that the most racist party in our recent history is obviously NZ1.

Saying ‘oh Labour did it too’ doesn’t work on me. Labour shouldn’t have relied on racists. That’s one reason I voted RAM (I’ld relate the main reason again but then QoT would tell me off for again not being PC enough. As if I don’t understand that being fat sucks. It was the visual juxtaposition, QoT. And the fact that the dude was not aware of it. I know his weight problems might have been glandular. It’s always glandular these days isn’t it. Even when the person hardly does any excerise and stuffs food in their mouth all day long we have to assume its glandular. And because of that nothing concerning their weight can ever be funny because its a medicial condition. Stuff all that, it looked funny, it’s not an attack on the guy, it’s not personal, it was just a funny visual juxtaposition.

But you only have to look at that roll call of shame to know that racism is also endemic in National MPs. Remember those four are only the ones dumb enough to get caught on the record.

And that’s, um … kind of telling.

Seriously, Z, over half a comment about racism dedicated to irrelevant ramblings about yours truly? And it’s not like you left much to unpack!

I’ld relate the main reason again but then QoT would tell me off for again not being PC enough.

Accusing one’s opponent of objecting on the grounds of political correctness? Seriously? Is Z channelling the bastard soulchild of Christine Rankin and Wayne Mapp? Is it even vaguely relevant to my actual comment? Was my comment somehow unclear as to the objections I had? Sincere confusion here, people.

As if I don’t understand that being fat sucks.

WTF?

It was the visual juxtaposition, QoT. And the fact that the dude was not aware of it.

A quinella of bingos, here, with “get a sense of humour” beating “fat people are stupid and ergo funny” by a nose.

I know his weight problems might have been glandular. It’s always glandular these days isn’t it. Even when the person hardly does any excerise and stuffs food in their mouth all day long we have to assume its glandular.

Again, some beautiful pulling random comments never made out of Z’s ass. But at the same time, Z calls on a classic obesity myth: fat people are in denial about their Bad Diets and Lack Of Exercise, and blame their weight on glandular problems because They’re Stupid And Don’t Understand That Their Diets Are Shit.

And this is all in relation to someone campaigning to get the GST off basic foods so people can actually afford to eat fresh, unprocessed foods which might be healthier for them! Could be that Z’s reaching a bit.

And because of that [cry to assumed excuse of glandular problems] nothing concerning their weight can ever be funny because its a medicial condition.

God forbid we don’t mock people due to their appearance, especially if it is due to a health condition! The thought! The sheer PC-ness of it all!

Stuff all that, it looked funny, it’s not an attack on the guy, it’s not personal, it was just a funny visual juxtaposition.

I do not need to tell anyone that crying “it’s just a JOKE!!!” is the very first resort of someone who just can’t be bothered to not be offensive. Instead of thinking “gee, why do I perceive fat people as objects of humour instead of human beings?” or wondering “could weight be due to something more than what Jenny Craig ads and episodes of Downsize Me tell me daily?” no, it’s just easier to whinge because The Evil Liberals/Feminists/Fat Activists/advocacy group of choice want to take away your ability to crack jokes requiring all the brainpower of a boiled egg.

And here’s the thing, folks: this isn’t even in reply to me. This is, out of nowhere, tacked into a comment on a totally different post on a totally different topic which Z has no idea if I’ll even read or comment on.

Seems like I may have hit a nerve there.

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12 comments

  1. Anita

    As ever, thank you for saying this. You are awesome 🙂

    The deep seated bigotry of some many on the left, and the vicious defensiveness which follows getting called on it by fellow travellers is a so pervasive at the moment.

  2. F-F-F-Franco

    Ohhhh noooozzzhh!!!! Someone dared make fun of someone else!!!!! Quit your whinging. Both of you.

    There’s more important shit to deal with and let’s face it – most of us on the webbywebweb are fat cunts. We might as well laugh about it…

    well – until our chubby little fingers get too broad to key in “lol”.

    To conclude: get a life you whining pricks. Fatties are funny.

    • QoT

      Thanks for batting for the “get a sense of humour” and “there’s worse things happening in the world” teams simultaneously, F-F-F-Franco.

  3. Emma

    Quit your whinging. Both of you.

    Oh noez! Somebody said something was offensive and stupid! Better race over and sort them out!

    Srsly, you just took the time to complain about how someone had complained about something that wasn’t worth bothering over. Irony much?

  4. jcuknz

    I can see the humour of the situation but surely we should also remember, while smiling, that irrespective of our body we can hold strong views on subjects. Personally I think the near universal concept of GST or VAT is much preferanble to the multitude of different taxes it superceded. As I see it, we take GST off food and people get used to that so what do they agitate for then .. a discount funded by government .. perhaps for selected foods. NO I think GST was one of Sir Roger’s best ideas and best the even way it is applied to almost everything. My only complaint is with the firms who do not include it in the price quoted on the basis that they are normally dealing with trade customers who can claim it back. That is similar to the obnoxious system I found in the States where state and tourists taxes are never included in quoted prices ….buyer beware sadly rules.
    I also think that while similing at the incongruity of the t-shirt we should not hold it against the person but at the same time try to enourage the younger generation to be more active and eat less fat producing foods. Short of stapling at lot of people, including myself, I see it as a problem best solved by encouraging the younger generations rather than making the misled unhappy.
    Another humourish situation is that while I border on obese my son recently did a 70K run and is planning for a 100k event, on the other hand last year I did a 700k solo sea voyage at 76yo. Each to their own thing.

    • QoT

      Your comments are getting a little on the way-too-long side, jcuknz.
      The only problem I have with “encouraging … more activity and eating less “fat-producing” foods” is that those messages always get linked to assumptions like “fat = eats poorly and never exercises” and “bigger than woman on cover of Cosmo = fat ergo unhealthy/stupid/evil”. Increasing the availability of fresh nutrition-rich food is one thing; propagating body-hating bullshit which does nothing but line the pockets of the diet industry is quite another.

  5. Moustache Lady

    So at the standard it’s cool to make jokes about fat people, but they rip Paul Henry to shreds over the moustache on a lady thing. What a bunch of hypocrites.

  6. jcuknz

    Surely the pot is calling the kettle black when you talk about length of contributions? 🙂

    • QoT

      All due respect to the smiley face, jc, but it’s my damn blog. You are entirely welcome to start your own and then you can rabbit on to your heart’s delight there.

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